Feed Drop - Hi Nay
Hi Nay Feed Drop Transcript
[Title music: rhythmic electronic folk.]
H.R. Owen
Hello friends, Hero here to introduce this week's feed drop. If you're not already listening to Hi Nay, you are seriously missing out. This stunning folk-horror anthology show follows Mari, a Filipina immigrant living in Toronto, as she fights to protect the city from dangerous magical events alongside supernatural detectives, her 6'2” lesbian neighbour, and a celebrity conman guru with real powers.
Hi Nay is a fabulously layered show with enough genuine scares to appease even die-hard horror fans, while still taking the time to explore post-colonialism, trauma and fascism. If you like what you hear today, you can find Hi Nay on all good podcatchers or see the show-notes for more information.
And if you're in the mood for more Filipino monsters, check out Hi Nay creator Motzie Dapul's upcoming comic, The Pinoy Monster Horror Anthology. It's 100 pages of fully illustrated folkore, mythology, dark fantasy, queer romance and terrifying Filipino monsters. See the show-notes to follow the project on Kickstarter ahead of the campaign's launch on October 1st.
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Transcript Hi Nay Episode 1 – Bulok
[”Hi Nay” opening theme, “Ili Ili Tulog Anay”, plays on kalimba]
[Low chilling atmospheric sound]
Motzie Dapul:
You’re listening to “Hi Nay,” by Motzie Dapul. Episode One: Bulok.
[Atmospheric sound stops]
[Phone ringing]
[Phone ringing stops]
Mari:
Hi Nay!
I know it’s been a while since we last talked. I’ve been… busy. [Sigh] Yeah, that sounded way worse out loud than it did in my head.
I know it’s a bad excuse and I’ve made too many excuses not to call, but it’s not like you’re in any state to–
[Sigh] Anyway.
I guess I have to start from the beginning.
Last week, I mean. I guess that’s the beginning. I didn’t call then because I really didn’t think it’d go anywhere, but after what happened there’s no denying that you… you need to know what’s going on. As far as I know what’s going on, anyway.
It started last Thursday.
You know I’ve got a home office – perks of working with your own editing suite, and having a decent setup means I don’t have to go in except for meetings.
My apartment isn’t exactly in the quietest part of the city, but it’s big, it’s comfortable, and the rent’s dirt cheap for the size, which probably should’ve been my first clue. Ah, well. But after my last place was such a crapshoot, I wasn’t gonna complain about the questionably cheap two-bedroom apartment in downtown Toronto where everything’s still new.
It made sense. They weren’t done building the place, after all. Renovating, I guess. Building over an older place, as far as I can tell.
The fact that we had to suffer through an entire first month of them testing the fire alarm at odd hours in the morning was worth it if I could just live in the finished floor for as long as I wanted after that. I love my new apartment and nothing short of a fire will get me to leave.
But… [Chilling atmospheric sound] But I don’t think I can say the same for Laura.
[Sound stops]
Laura, by the way, is my downstairs neighbour. I don’t know if she’s gonna be my neighbour for much longer, but I don’t know her situation well enough to judge.
Like I said. It happened last Thursday.
I was working from home then, like usual. I don’t know if it was luck or providence that I had my headphones off at the time. I was having a lunch I made for myself and a nice little milk tea I ordered in – and I know what you’re gonna say, it’s not good for me, too much sugar, but we’ve been having this argument for ten years and if I haven’t stopped already I probably never will so – sorry. Off topic.
I was having my lunch. And my milk tea. When I heard the screams.
[Chilling atmospheric sound]
I thought maybe at first it was a TV show, someone on another floor opening a video and forgetting to turn the volume down. But then I realised it was coming from the… echoing stairwell from across the hallway.
A long, carpeted hallway. The kind you’d expect to see creepy twins at the end of, asking you to play with them as an elevator opens up behind them to spill blood all over the carpet.
Since the building’s new, it fortunately doesn’t have the usual creepy blinking light nobody ever bothered to fix, but it does have its own more modern creepiness – motion activated lighting.
That was the weird part, though. The motion activated lighting should’ve kept the halls and the stairwell dim until someone moved through it – but the stairwell remained pitch black – which was impossible. It was never perfectly dark. Safety reasons, you know?
But then – But I couldn’t see a thing in that black box behind the door. All I could do was hear her [Faint sound of woman screaming]- her desperate, gasping screams and the sound of stumbling footsteps.
Then she broke out of the darkness. Laura, her light hair covered in blood, gashes all over her arms. She saw me looking out my door and took off at a dead sprint toward me.
And right behind her, breaking from the darkness, grabbing at the place she had just been, was a hulking figure.
No. Not a figure. A Mass.
[Low rumbling sound]
A mass of stretched gray skin – human skin, but from someone long dead, stretched so thin you could see something rotting and roiling beneath, but somehow keeping its shape, keeping itself together, a flimsy flesh sack dragging itself across the floor.
I caught Laura when she all but crashed into me, dragging her into my room and locking my door – a nice solid deadbolt that I suspected wouldn’t stand against whatever this thing was.
But it gave me enough time to grab what I could. Salt, spices, vinegar, candles, and whatever religious iconography I could grab from my little altar near the door.
Then…Then the knocking started. [Sound of dull thudding]
Well I say knocking, but it’d be more accurate to say it was throwing itself against the door. [Sound of thudding is getting louder, stronger, more spaced apart].
Laura kept screaming. I don’t think she could stop if she wanted to. But at some point, just as I’d blocked out the incessant false fire alarms in the first month of living here, I was able to tune her out, focusing only on the heavy [Thud], dull thudding [Thud] against my solid wood door [Thud].
And after one sharper crack [A single loud thud] right where the deadbolt held that startled us both into silence, it… stopped.
[Chilling atmospheric music stops]
I thought maybe that was the end of it. I hoped.
And then it… started flowing [Chilling atmospheric music starts again]. Under the door. Like whatever it was had begun to…. Melt.
Not completely. You know when this thin film forms over chicken fat that breaks right apart when you poke into it? That’s what it reminded me of – a filmy, slick liquid going between the cracks and reforming right in front of us.
I didn’t wait for it to come back up before I started throwing the salt. It didn’t stop it, but it certainly had a reaction. Where it touched, the skin sac started to bubble, and you could smell the scent of deep rot.
Then I threw the spices.
And the skin began to smoke. It roiled and twisted. It seemed startled, almost. Like it didn’t expect someone to start trying to fight back, especially not like this. Not with…. Folk magic and intent.
It really didn’t like when I grasped the anting-anting around my neck and started a bulong, whispering my prayers – prayers to a belief that holds the minds and hearts of billions, and prayers to an older, kinder ear that still cares for its people.
It hadn’t yet fully reformed when it melted again - this time, seeming to disappear into the floor, no longer as solid as it was. The smell that was so strong and cloying dissipated, and soon - it was gone [Chilling atmospheric sound stops].
Not destroyed. Gone.
Laura called 911 and I stayed with her until they arrived. Made sure her wounds were as clean as they could be, though she started screaming again when I walked over to the sink to get some water. Had to use some bottled, and then I used my first aid training to disinfect the wounds and wrap her arms in gauze.
She didn’t protest when I started a bulong over them. Lit a candle, melted the wax over a bowl of water, looked over it with a critical eye to see if she had anything…. Else wrong with her [Brief chilling atmospheric sound]. If that rot had set into her skin.
Police came and checked the building for any wild animal or intruder, and they, alongside our compunctious concierge, guided me and Laura out of the building to the paramedics.
Laura begged me not to leave her alone. She seemed to think I was the only reason the monster hadn’t come back, and they couldn’t get her into the ambulance while she was clinging to me, so I rode in the back of the ambulance with her.
They said I did a good job with her arms, but when we got to the hospital she needed more than a few stitches anyway.
She didn’t let me go until she was sedated, and I gave my statement in the waiting room.
I knew how this worked so I told them I saw her running and bleeding and got her into my room, but I hadn’t seen who or what was chasing her and it had stopped trying to get into my room after a while since I’d locked the door.
I wasn’t sure what they’d find in the CCTV. I wasn’t sure if they’d see the pitch black stairwell, or the thing made of skin and rot.
What I was sure of was that Laura hadn’t been… infected by it, as far as I could tell with my tawas. Presuming I could know the nature of it with old Filipino candle scrying, anyway. Maybe I just couldn’t see what it was. Maybe it was already inside her, and nothing I did would change that.
But when I got a call the next day telling me Laura was safe and seemed to be healing nicely, I was hopeful [Sound of sirens in the distance].
I was expecting some kind of follow-up from the police, and that eventually came in the form of two detectives asking me to come down to the station to give them another statement.
The building itself was an architectural marvel, all sharp and asymmetrical edges without feeling cold or unwelcoming. It felt old and new at the same time, in that Toronto way.
I’ve never seen real, actual police detectives outside of TV, so to see them not in uniform but, nonetheless, wearing light coats in dark colours over office-wear made me realise the image of a trenchcoat-wearing investigator wasn’t too far from the mark.
The older one introduced himself as Donner. He didn’t look remotely friendly, watching me with narrowed, suspicious eyes, but for all that his resting anger face had me cowed, I didn’t feel anything truly hostile coming off him. The opposite, in fact. I thought maybe the wrinkles between his brows and the frown that he wore, weighed down by what I guessed were years of practice, made him seem older than he was.
The younger one seemed his polar opposite. He exuded friendliness, and with his bright eyes and easy smile and exceptionally good looks, he looked more like a supermodel than a policeman, the kind you’d see go viral in a twitter post. This one introduced himself as Murphy. You know, like that – the movie with the, the – Robocop! Yeah, that one.
I gave them the same spiel. Knew she was chased, didn’t see what chased her. Donner looked at me like he knew I was lying, or leaving something out. Murphy just looked friendly. Looked like they had the good cop, bad cop routine down to a T. 10/10 execution.
Donner asked me then if I knew what lying to the police would get me. I asked if there was any reason I’d lie about protecting someone from an animal or a maniac, especially when I spent most of my night accompanying her to a hospital to make sure she was okay.
The two looked at each other, had an entire silent conversation in a matter of seconds with some pointed facial expressions, and it was Murphy that spoke up next, leveling me with a warm but firm expression.
Turns out, they got exactly what happened from Laura. Which either made her look crazy or made me look like a liar. I knew which one was more likely. I didn’t like either option.
When I asked what the CCTV showed, they said they’d just gotten the building to release the footage from the day of the attack. I asked, a bit pointedly, if there was anything else. I was definitely pushing my luck beyond what might have been considered wise, if I didn’t think Donner’s impressive scowl was just for show. He didn’t ease up on the look, and I was beginning to wonder whether I’d read him entirely wrong when he gave me a phone number to call if I… remembered anything else. Like he knew exactly what I’d lied about.
I mean, anyone who looks at me will see a lot of round edges, so malice isn’t exactly an aura I let off. But it was still strange for a detective to feel like he knew I was lying and let me go anyway.
And for a few days, there was nothing. Laura wasn’t moving back until the investigation was done, doing her recovery with her family down in Oakville. The first time she called me was when she wanted to “introduce herself properly”, and she wanted to talk more about what happened but I held off. I promised I’d talk to her when we were face to face, and she agreed. [Quick sigh] I’m glad she’s safe, and far away from whatever it was that wanted to get her.
I tried going down to her room a few times, but it was locked up and under investigation so I didn’t get far. I did try to get a feel of the hallway outside the door [Whispering]. I felt her fear, and the malice and rage of the thing that chased her three flights up, but I didn’t get much more than I already knew.
There was something else. Something I couldn’t get the shape of.
After my half-baked attempts at figuring out what was going on, and doing some extensive cleansing and protection rituals over my front door, I had to get back to work. Deadlines, you know?
For a while, I lost myself in the rhythm of editing, until a loud rapping on my door penetrated the thick layer of foam over my ears.
I was wary. [Brief chilling atmospheric sound] I remember the last time somebody knocked on my door but this time I didn’t sense any… wrongness outside the door, and after a look through the peephole, I welcomed Detectives Donner and Murphy into my home.
Murphy complimented my little space like his mother probably taught him, and Donner looked at my altar with a critical eye, as well as the little paper talismans I’d stuck to the wood, invoking the names of old gods with little cups of rice on either side of the door.
They both accepted when I offered them drinks – a sugary black coffee for Donner and unsweetened but drowned in cream for Murphy.
Donner asked me if I could read minds on top of killing monsters. And I told him the truth…
[Mystical atmospheric music]
[Music stops abruptly] The only thing I was better at than guessing how people took their coffee was making instant taste halfway decent.
[Sigh] They told me they’d looked over the footage and found… interference. Video cutting off right when Laura made it to my floor. Donner told me this wasn’t surprising, that it was like this with the…. Other ones.
[Brief chilling atmospheric sound] He then asked me if I’d tell him the truth this time. Off the record. He had yet to take a single sip of his coffee.
I asked him then. How could I tell you about a monster that melted into the floor when I prayed and have you not think I was crazy? Donner looked me in the eye for what felt like hours.
Our eyes were the same colour, but couldn’t have looked more different. People always told me mine were soft, warm even.
His eyes seemed too deep and dark for light to penetrate, so that light reflected in a way that made them flash – the sharpest eyes I’d ever seen. Like they saw as much as I did, even without the generations spent preserving the Sight in our bloodline.
Eventually, he took a sip of the cooling brew and complimented me on getting it perfect.
Turns out, the only reason I didn’t sound the fool was because I was talking to the two detectives who had dealt with cases similar to this one. Ones where everyone involved turned up dead.
Laura was their first survivor. And I was the reason why [Chilling atmospheric sound].
They grilled me on what I saw, the methods I used, and I tried to answer them as best I could, but a lot of what I did had been guesswork, based on past experience that I couldn’t be sure applied here. I told them, in as much detail as I could manage without gagging, what the thing looked like. The skin sac. The smell of it. The more I said, the more skeptical they looked, but when I emphasised this was the exact reason I didn’t want to tell them what I saw the first time, they relented.
I told them about my trips down to Laura’s room to check on whether something in there might have triggered the attack and Murphy asked if I wanted to… assist in a long-running police investigation. Donner asked if I was sure that the thing going after Laura didn’t now have my scent.
I told him about the cleansing rituals. Told him I was… protected. When he asked me by what, I told him, “love and good vibes”, which he very clearly didn’t believe, but he didn’t ask again. He muttered something I think sounded like Jamaican… patois, I think the word was. Don’t know what he meant, but it didn’t exactly sound open and accepting of my clearly honest answer.
And it was. Honest. Maybe not extensive, or detailed, but it was honest.
They unlocked Laura’s room and I could feel the wrongness in the air, like the scent of nearby garbage, a rot that wasn’t cloying, but noticeable. They spread out to check the area and I began to feel my way round. Eyes closed, trying to get a sense of the space and what didn’t belong in it. I almost bumped into the table when I felt it.
I touched something small and round on the table…
…And I immediately had to run to the nearest sink to vomit. You know I hate it – the feeling of it in my throat. I’ve gone through some minor surgeries fully awake and it’s never been as bad as the feeling of vomit.
Luckily, nothing had come up but spit off to the side of the square sink, and I could barely hear Donner shouting at me not to contaminate the crime scene and Murphy asking if I was okay over the pulsing of my ears – and I saw it. Right in the drain.
A piece of dead, grey skin stuck to the black mouth of the drainpipe. Donner wasted no time getting gloves on and taking a sample while Murphy tried to keep me standing.
Donner presented the evidence to me in a plastic bag, confirming that it was like the thing I’d seen. There was worry that the thing had gotten into the pipes and was long gone by now, but that didn’t feel right.
I went back to the table and found what looked to be a sewing project – a lovely, vintage-looking dress that Laura had been working on, halfway done sewing these beautiful, carved buttons into the fabric.
I didn’t have to touch them again to know that they were wrong. I asked the two to bag them for evidence and with the look on his face, I expected Donner to question it, but between the two he was quicker to act. I don’t know if I imagined him pausing when he picked a couple up with gloved hands. Like maybe he could feel what I felt? But that’s unlikely. I think. Murphy looked like he wanted to ask, but seemed to think better of it.
On the subject of the thing that had apparently come up through the pipes, I had a theory, but I couldn’t go it alone – which is how I ended up between two armed men taking point and watching my back as we made our way down to the unfinished basement level of my building.
[Chilling atmospheric sound getting louder]
I could smell it now, stronger than ever. And from the look on Donner’s face as he turned to me, he could too. Murphy asked if this was where all the garbage in the building was going, so three for three, the rotting thing was here, a presence strong enough that I wasn’t the only one to feel it – well, smell it, any more.
The smell got stronger as we got closer. If we’d asked building security they’d have told us construction was delayed in this section since they were waiting for someone from Sanitation find the source of the awful smell, but we didn’t.
We didn’t really talk to anyone beyond the one guy who let us through with a flashed badge when we descended one of the few areas in the building residents were under no circumstances to enter.
The smell and the sick feeling I got where my stomach felt like it might rebel against my throat again was strongest by this one stretch of concrete, where the only break in the grey was the end of one drainpipe that was, to nobody in our group’s surprise, dripping this thick, dark, slick-looking liquid from which the smell seemed to be emanating.
It was here, but it wasn’t showing itself, and if we had any chance of stopping it now, we had to force it out. I asked for the bags of evidence and I pilled the buttons out into the little puddle that had begun to form.
And it happened all at once.
[Sudden loud clanging sounds]
[The rot’s rumbling sound]
A human scream and an animal snarl and the sound of melting, bubbling, blasting outward, and something else I couldn’t name but that sounded horrifyingly familiar [louder rumbling sound].
I saw the grey face of a dead man screaming right in front of mine [faint sound of a man screaming in anguish]. His teeth were made of animal bones – the ribs and skulls of rodents, the fangs of a cat opening to bite my face off had Donner not dragged me back by my collar, the force of it enough to throw me down to the side. Got a few bruises, ended up toppling over a few spare cinder blocks and lumber, but it was better than the alternative.
I think he tried to shoot his gun, but the grey, rotting thing wrapped around it and the gunshot was lost in the thick of it. Like shooting bullets into ballistic gel.
I heard two more loud shots echo in the enormous basement level and saw that one of them caught the thing in its face, shattering the cat skull and causing the rotting thing to turn its attention to Murphy, even while it had Donner’s arm wrapped in its melting grip.
That’s when I realized its attention wasn’t on me.
Grabbing one of the heavy cinderblocks and dragging myself closer to the fray, I found what I was looking for and raised it right over my head.
And I slammed [sound of concrete hitting and breaking something] it down onto one of the ivoroid buttons, shattering the bone white patterns and warping the metal base. And like a garbage bag cut through with a knife, the rotting thing seemed to lose its shape – a hole forming in the thin, translucent grey of its skin and spilling what looked to be the half-gone remains of animals – rats, raccoons, and even dogs and cats.
Still, it retained much of its form as it lunged toward me, and its sharp bone claws sliced into my back as I crushed a second and third button much the same way.
It hurt so very badly, sharp and debilitating, but there were only a few more to go and I knew I had to destroy them before the rotting thing did us in, when another couple of loud shots filled the basement and I saw two more buttons shattered from the impact of well-aimed bullets.
Donner, I learned later, with his sharp eyes and steady hand, was one of the best shots in the force.
The rotting thing was spilling out in all directions now, covering us in the remains of things long and recently dead.
And before I could break the last button, what felt like the bones of an all-too-human hand caught my wrist, and I looked into the empty eyes of a dead man [the sound of rumbling and the anguished man’s screams, less feint now], a jaw long-since unhinged from the skull, and I felt its rage as it tried to stop me from letting it rest.
Then Donner and Murphy pulled it back, the last vestiges of the rotting thing that could still hold itself together – the centre of the rot.
Finally, I could raise the cinderblock with the last of my strength, and I threw it down, shattering [sound of concrete hitting and breaking something] the last button.
And slowly, but surely, all the remains we saw scattered around us melted away.
[Chilling atmospheric music stops]
And I could finally breathe again.
From what I understand, the story was that they found a rabid coyote and had to put it down which is apparently a thing in Toronto? At least, that’s what they told building management.
After the rotting thing melted away, the three of us found the narrow little space between the building and its seven-storey neighbour and the hole where animals seem to have fallen into, suffocating half-underground.
They got permits to dig, and they found a bit of a horror show with a bunch of Torontonian wildlife piled on top of what they eventually discovered was an unidentified human corpse half-baked into the cement of the old building ours had been built over.
I was made to sign a statement by building management not to tell a soul about what I knew, and now I don’t have to pay utilities, uh, ever. So something good came out of this and looks like I’m gonna be sticking around here for a lot longer now.
I didn’t get to see the dig, though Donner and Murphy were kind enough to get me some gruesome pictures later on. They brought me to the hospital to have my scratches looked at and Donner was apologetic about putting me in danger, and giving me the few bruises blooming on my thighs from when he threw me. It was silly for him to worry; he basically saved my life.
Well, maybe I could’ve survived having my face ripped off by a cat skull, but I’d rather not think about it.
Murphy offered to accompany me home and I accepted, made him coffee, and we had a nice afternoon talking. A weirdly normal afternoon, until I remembered to ask him about the buttons and he told me Donner took care of that evidence.
I asked them if they did this often – fight monsters, I mean.
Murphy was uncharacteristically grim-faced when he answered [Mari puts on a lower voice as an impression of Murphy], “We’ve only ever found the remains.”
And that’s what happened. I –
[Phone button press]
Oh crap. One sec!
[Mari’s voice is slightly fainter, as if talking from more of a distance]
Hello? Donner? Yeah, I’m just… I’ve got work but… Saturday? Yes, I – Mhmm. Oh. Wait, one sec, one sec. Uhh… King – Chinatown? Okay, yes. Of course. You’re, you’re – You’re welcome.
[Mari’s voice is at normal volume again]
That was Donner. He says he found the one who sold Laura those buttons.
I have a theory, Nanay. They didn’t feel right. I know they didn’t, I–
…Whatever it was that was under this building… whoever it was that was left there for so long… there’s a reason it didn’t wake up until now.
Donner asked me to help. Said he needed me to… feel the place out, in case I caught something he couldn’t see beneath the surface.
I said yes. I know this has nothing to do with me and I know you wanted me here– but with everything that’s happened, and all the questions we still haven’t answered… I have a feeling this is just the beginning.
[”Hi Nay” opening theme, “Ili Ili Tulog Anay”, plays on kalimba]
Motzie Dapul:
You’re listening to “Hi Nay,” by Motzie Dapul.
[Music stops]
[Fade to silence]
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